1950-02-14 MINUTES OF CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MTGMINUTES OP MHE > PECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUITCIL
OF SOUTH 1-11AIAII ITIELD TUESDAY E - -ITING , FEBRTJ4Y 14,
A.D. 1950 AT.THE COb;.iii „ITY BUILDING AT 8 :00 P.M.
The meeting was called to order by President Van Dusen, -%,rth mayor Acker
Councilmen Corley, Carball,o, Gresham, Andrews Preb'ish, President Van Dusen
and Attorney Ruff responding to roll call.
President Van Dusen read the notice for the meeting which had been called for
the purpose of taking action on Orainances a 98 and X199 and consideration of
the hater Board report.
Minutes of the. m;a•ting of Februazy 7 1950 were road.
Following corrections called for, the minutes were approved as corrected.
Councilman Carballo, seconded by Councilmen: Corley, m&vod thst Orc.inenco
caption of which follows, be placed on third 'and final reading in its entirety.
Motion carried. _
ORDINANCE. NO. 198
A>1? O3DINANCE aLTEUIDIdG THE TERRITORY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF
SOME 7dIAI, I BY AMITEYIN;, LOTS 18, 22' A?ID 23 OF BIACIi 2 itiEST
ERFTELD TULJOR, SECTIONS 1 JUM 2, ASS RECORDED INI :PLAT BaJX 18
PAGE 47 OF THE PUBLIC RECORD O li DADE COU.ITY, ILORI DA.
Following its reading, Councilman Gresham, seconded by Councilman Andrews, moved
f that Ordinance x198 be adopbod as read.
Following discussion and a question of legality, on a call for the vote, the
motion was carried unanimously.
In connection Frith proposed Ordinance -` ='199, the follovring recoramndrti:on was
read from the advisory Boning Board;
"The South Elami Planting and Advisory Zoninv Board at its maeting at the
City :roll on February 9, 1950, passed a resolution recommendin,; an i-mr.
mediate amendment to Soc;'ion 5 of Ordinance No. 78 to include rooming;
houses in the listins under the 14-3 classifici.tion
It will be gr w tly w�praei ^:tad if this ,%m v-dmant ic, made at once.”
Councilman Andro,rs, secondod by Counoilmen Oreshom, moved that; Ordinance No. 159,
caption of which follows, be alaccd on Cirst roariinv in its antirety. otion
carriod and • "rdiitanco " >;o. 199 road, in it-. ontirety.
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Councilman Carballo as'.eed what they are trying to do, whether they are trying to
do something regarding adm. Christensen ivz.en ho ha, rights, alrenuy asteolished?
Mayor Acter stated that the muter wou,;ht to li;ht the fact th�lt there
was no place for rooming; hou -3s under tie Zoning; ordinance and cannot oce aliero
this vrould affect the Christenss,n case in any manner, thq.L, the !'orin� "card i;s
trying do correct what has been a deficiency in the + ordinanco b;; tack f epecifyin
a ,place for roonun houses and tT of oforo a� .ea -b hot �hzs crdlnTr.0 . v passed at ono � .
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Following further discussion, Councilman Androws, seconded by Co1 incilman Corley,
moved that Ordinance - nf'199 be placed on third and finial reading in its entirety.
Councilman Probish *.shed if them: is a ,provision in -the Ordinance that i.t is an
emergency ordinance, and thou he believes an e:r_ergency ordinanco must have in it
that it is passed by a certain majority.
Councilman Carballo ;stated lie understands that the Charter says 5/7
Attorney Ruff stated he had made a search at the Zoning :Board neeting, of both the
Code and the Carter and could not find that.
Councilman Carballo moved '-the matter be tabled until the next meeting to clear this
up. The motion -was lost for -rant of a second.
Attorney Ruff 'stated he has not been able to find any provision that an emergency
measure 'requires a 5/7 vote. It -was suggested the vote be to -en and then make
th6 search
l'lotion carried, and Ordingnco vr199 road in its entirety on third and final reading.
Councilman Andrews, seconded by Councilman vrosham,= moved that Ordinance A199
be adopted as road.
Councilman Carballo Stated he cannot vote for that ordinance, he does not believe'
it is fair.
Following discussion, the motion was carried by poll, as follows:
Corley ,yes Carballo no vrosham yes Probisn yes Andrews yen Van Duson yes
The raport of the Plater Board Bras next taken up.
Jas. 1111. McConnell, Chairman of tiio Board, presented Messrs Kent, (Fla, Inspection
and Rating Bureau), J•N•Androws, John ii. JroonloaP Jr. (1.2ader .nappon- Tippotts
g. Co.) and H. Linthicum (also a It -T 1'n-. Co.)
A ma? of tho City, marred to shov tho proyosod covora,;o by Consumars Bator Company,
by years, ,raa mounted on a stand for public it apoetion. ' ho area ma.rkod in yellow
was conoidored the most urgont and ineludod tho colored section, and with the
area nurroundin, %drLed in 'proem stag sc;tiodtilod for completion in 1050, the been
aroa for 1951 and the rod i'or 1959. Prnsidoy ;an lmo,)n real the lobtor from the Consumer:; llator Company to tho .later 70rrd which a000rvaniod the top,
li*a then real the '!oardf s reao=ondation to the City.
Ilayor Acker askdd vAiothor the *mina as spooiflod lain thb proposal are sui'.ficiont
for �.ydrmta to Carry. the 1mialt lnaurim;6 rat*,
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Mr. Greenleaf suggested checking this with Mr. Kent of -the Rating Bureau as
water mains are only part of the problem in determining insurance rates, and be-
lieves 1Ar. Kent should ensiver this question.
IJr. Kent stated ratings are based on a point system, the principal ones, being as
follows';
1. Water supply. This is a major factor but alone does not do it.
2. Fire department equipment and personnel.,
3. Building laws and enforcement.
4.: Fire prevention ordinances and Police departirent.
5. Alarm system.'
6. Prevailing type of construction.
7. Zoning ordinances.
8. Topography of the area.
9. Cause and spread of fires.
Councilman Andrews asked how many groupings of rates there- are.
Mr. rent replied that dwellings are class -rated but in the mercantile class each
building is individuall y inspected and rated.
Mr. Kent stated that :ells are not considered primary wager supply, they are re-
cognized on their individual merit and if everything else is up_ -to par they would
give some Consideration for -the }vells,,,that wells Are peculiar to -this area..
Mayor Acker stated the cost of water -dust be justified in - reduction of insurance
rates.'
Mr. Kent stated the biggest jump is from relatively aothing to a, rating.
Mr. Greenleaf, stated that an 8th. grade rating is quite a tough thing for a small
town to reach., that ,South Miami now is about 10th. class, and would next got to class 9.
Buildings within 600 feet of a hydrant are one rate, beyond 500 feet on another
ratef, therefore hydrants should be spaced 800 feet on centers as a maximum. No.hy
drants should be on mains less than 6 -in. and the net wort; should be laid out so
that necessary hydrants can be on 6 -in. mains or larger*
The program of stop construction must take into account laying the principal mains
along with the step program. IIis casual observation of the proposed plan revealed-
that the principal mains are quite limited and largely 2 -in. mains. Ho believos
it should be possible to re- arrange some of the mains on this drawing to include
in initial steps a little utrongor background, the net work laid out :seems to cover
reasonably wall.
Putting in of hydrants it; 'zomothing of lit..lo or no 'interest to water companies un-
less revenue i3 to, be derivad from them. It is quite customary for a torn or city
to establish hydrant _rental - a sum of money paid annually to the crater company
;for installation and maintenance of hydrants, !90 to ,115 per ;dear. The 2 -it.
mains take care of the houses, but bid =Anc are needed for Ara protection and Umt '
bo paid for,.
Res the quality of :crater, South lirmi is growing rapidly, and it is the gonoral pra
etice to nortan water in thisr aroa, but ahoy would not got, sottined 6tor for tho
proaetite if the torn has full control of its nator faisilitiez it am do thingit it
cannot got a commerci a1 co t,ny to do. 4o Urgea study bofora dropping on i raly
t}io tMt vnr of gettin a its own aratdhe
Prosidont `tan Dmoii w.kdd wh t the dom.ilation ok thono aroao (Mrkad on ttrp) would
coat the City, otid, if they go aloe,: wit. ConI Li4r3 Water Cot phnys will tie Oi— 0fly
have a wfa:or to aupply thd-d Mint
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Mr. Greenleaf replied there is no problem to getting the water but the question
of softenir_s- it.
Mr..,Linthicum stated they would not be 'able to got Cood water if too many wells
4,are put down and drw.tin on, that they would pull salt water during the dry season.
(councilman Andrews asked Miethor there isn't a possibility of a ;"Dater Authority
for the entire county or even more than tho county.
Mr. Linthicum stated there is a possibility, and ,some thous; has boon given to
that, that Dade County already has a conservation department and control over the
canals.
Councilman Corley asked what effect the new viell of Miami -rill have.
Mr. Linthieum replied that this is on a long range Ulan, the treatment plant will
be for 40,000,000 gallons per day and ultimately increased to possibly 12x,000,000'
gallons per day. At present they have a 48 -in. main and, 9 wells down, which form
a part of the ultimate plan. Under the ultimate plan thosa mould be emergency wells,,
and the well field (16 large wells) wall be 4 to 5 miles southwest. There is an
ample supply of water under good prosjure even nos. altho' not softened. It may be:
as much as 4 or 5 years before the treatment plant coulc be built and water softened.
I,ir. Kent suggested the City submit whatever proposals it has and their engineering
department will be glad to study them and make recommendations. 310 stated that
South Miami is now in a suburban 'rating of metropolitan 1•tiiami.
Councilman Andrews suggested submittint and obtaiaLng from the Inspectkon Bureau
Engineer's recommendation as to what course should be pursued -to obtain reduced
fire insursnoe rates.
Mr. Kent stated their En -inaor was down in l7ovombor and should be back soon and
will be glad to come bats to South Miami end talk with the authorities and work
up a set of recommendations.
Councilman Andrews suggested that the City Council should request the 'Hater board
to present this to the Rating Bureau for their reeo=endations.
President Van Dusan asked lir. McConnell for his re- action 'on this.
Mr. (McConnell stated that the only thing sccorkplished by submitting to the Bureau
was to establish a ra'tin[ after the system is put in, and that the letter from
Consumers Slater Company apparently is not in accordance with the needs for fire
insurance.
Councilman Prebish asked whether Mr. Kent's organization will review the plan and
make recommendations
fir. Kent stated they will not tell what type of main to put in, that is whore
engineering is needed.
idnyor Act-or stated that Consumers, "hater company has had the frcurchise for 18 months
and we have no :actor yet, that this is a proposal of what they propose to do by
the and of 1952. The letter is the only assurance that t }is proposal will become
a reality. He would 'like the Council to study thus time alomants. In his opinion
thers is no juntificetion Por stretching out over 3 yaara providing that amount of
m waforo hu finds ovary reluctance on the part of Consumers ulster Co:raany in putting
any =nay out in South � wile They wantad south 1 imul completely on an estsaion
policy oxtendiuS from their present facilities and the ;later 3card insisted on a
syntan par tho frtnchibe and this, ,id ,vh;i, propoaad systems Prom this thoy propoao to
extend cat sn ox aucien policys lie would like to rarairo cowbtlnn in a shortor
period of tie».
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Attorney Ruff stated that future consideration of water system financing and taking
care of cost of a sewage system should be given some -U ouPub. :Mould that double
the cost of water?
Mr. Greenleaf stated',the water department is the only source of real revenue and
can set up a plan vihere they can accumulate Minds to put in a sewage system. -,In
Miami they recommended 10V on water bills to finance the sewage system.
Mr. Glasol, res the franchise, asked what if Consumers T ater Company falls do-bin,
whet then? Ua suggested requiring placing of certain amount of bond that in the
event LI of default, South Miami is protected by the bond.
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Councilman Andrews said they may be taking -the wrong slant, 60 days agormade the
motion that created the Iffater Bo rd, to take up the separate and different pro
blems as they arose in order to discuss with Consumers 'mater Comn'eny.
::is idea of ge-6t ng e Water Eo.:rd was to get entineering experience at no cost.
Mr. McConnell stated there is no person who is a fully qualified engineer living
in`towa. Re: the bond, it is not provided for in the franchise but the City can
take the Company to Court in the event of default.
President Van Dusan, regarding the recommendations of the Board, asked for action.
Councilmen Corley stated he has -the, material for carrying out the first recommendation.
The City At';orney would have to work over for local, Condit bus• '
Councilmen Gresham asked what about the engineering?'
President Jan Dusan suggested changing recommendation ;1 to #2 and I'J2 to �',-Ll.
Ur. McConnell agreed to this.
Councilman Andrews asked whether engineering firms should not submit offers?
- Mayor Acker, re: enginears, stated he has not been able to find one and would
like to recommend Messrs. Linthieum and Greenleaf vrho. are with a good firm but
does not know what they have to offer in the way of fees.
Mr* Greenleaf replied that he brought out a possible proposal for continuous
services covering all branches of' engineering so they could see what sort of
things they were talking about, also a`copy of their professional record. This
is an offer and ;subject to discussion.
Mr. McConnell stated the firm is headed by Earl 11. Rader, former County engineer
and he has surround
ad ,himself with men }dell giia.lified in all fields of engineering.
Councilman Andrews suggested turning over the material to a committee for re-
commendation to the Council tmd take up -other problems now.
The monthly fees would be .$150.00,, for which they would attend meetings and ,give
consultations.
President Van rNisen appointed "Councilman Corley (Sanitation), Carballo (Fire)
and preble (Finance) & committee to check this proposal of 'Mader- Knappen- Tipgotts
Engineering Company, to consider vd ethor or not a firm oP consulting engineers
should be socurod.
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On -2, Re: dry toilets, Councilman Corley stated he has the material ready for
that and turned it over to the Cite Attorney to prepare similar ordinances. He
discussed outside privies and the matter of connections.
Councilman Prebish stated that the rates in effect are too high for the colored
people, and-the rates should be agreed upon before giving Consumers ,41ater Company
a green light
Following discussion of rates end tapping fees, Councilman Carballo suggested that
perhaps Mr. McConnell can tell if they discussed rates with Consumers ;rater Company.
Mr. McConnell stated the rates on -f:.le with the City were made before the formation
of the Board and they have not discussed rates with •them.
Following discussion the functions of the 'Hater Board, Mayr Acker stated that
they have given, proposals of a system. the Council should say whether or not
they accept the proposal and whether or not to hire an engineer to see whether
acceptable or not.
President Van Dusan whether an engineer would take care of the questions,
under Section 2.`
Mr. Greenleaf replied they would give the benefit of experience in other places,
etc. but the final decision would be up to the Council.
Recommendation j3 is an engineering matter.
Mr. McConnell thinks it wise to go into engineering fees, they and Councilman
gg g gi , they get advice.
Gresham suggested hiring an enM ^ueor, ;.hen can seek information anti
Councilman Corley stated the 'later, Board ;corked hard and the Council should accept
the recommendations, but d.o need an engineer before they can do ,an;rthing.
President Van Dusan suggested they study the hiring of an engineer and then go on
from there. He continued with the reading of the rocomaendetions.
Res 2-b,, Fred 17ickhAm asked if a property is large enough to have well and get
RIA , some owners might not want to connect.
Councilman Andre -as stated such property usually is array from the water mains.
Lra. Bethel objocted Lo 2 -c
H. S. Mason, res 2 -c, also objects to 2 -b on now constmetions. fie does not.viant-
any part of Consumers Rater Company, says he pumps bettor and cheaper water, and
can sou forcing connection on basis of poor water only.
Uri :McConnell stated Consumorn Water COW -piny suggested 2 -a t nd 2 -b Lind, tho Board
auggestod 2 -c.
Councilman Andraws stated that the City or Miami, :chi h has its osm victer, Ito's
Been iivable to onforcei poople to uau t;ho City mater i4huro they Kara their nzn walls.
Mr., UcCot no: l :.Ayj thay roquiro connections v&od ho dlth cond tionn` requirs 'it.
Following discussion, Councilman wdrsws, oecordod by Councilman .Jrd sham, movod t}
they romove 2 -o from the roeo oridatlottg WV.h Ur. 'M";oContoll +a 04s
;emotion earriod, aftor diaettssit ng with ow'o nogativo vote by coun.cilist c6 ]rays
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